Fr. Chad Ripperger vs. Ven Mary Ágreda + Debunking Leo’s Pachamama | David L. Gray in the Morning
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“Choosing Life, Clearing the Smoke, and Calling Out the Claims”
On today’s episode of David L. Gray in the Morning, we move through three big conversations shaping Catholic life right now — Scripture, spirituality, and scandal — all with clarity, charity, and a little bit of holy fire.
We begin with St. Turibius of Mogrovejo, the great missionary bishop whose feast we celebrate today. His courage, his love for the poor, and his relentless commitment to evangelization set the tone for everything that follows.
From there, we turn to today’s Gospel (John 8:1–11) and explore a theme that runs straight through the life of Christ:
👉 Whenever Jesus is confronted with death — physical, spiritual, social, or emotional — He always chooses life.
We walk through sixteen powerful moments in the Gospels where Jesus restores, heals, forgives, raises, reconciles, and renews. It’s a needed corrective in a culture that often prefers outrage to conversion.
Next, we revisit the Fr. Chad Ripperger “demon gossip” controversy — especially in light of your weekend comments. Many of you brought up Venerable Mary of Ágreda’s Mystical City of God, so today we break down the difference between her devotional, symbolic private revelation and the theological claims being made in Ripperger’s demonology.
Spoiler: Ágreda never said what people think she said.
And when demon testimony contradicts Scripture, Tradition, and the Magisterium… well, that’s not theology. That’s fan fiction with a supernatural twist.
Finally, we address the newly circulating Fr. Robert Prevost / “Pachamama” story. Using the actual source material, we walk through the ten major weaknesses in the claim — including reliance on photo interpretation, lack of primary witnesses, anonymous unverifiable testimony, and assumptions about intent.
In other words:
👉 People need to calm down.
👉 It was 30 years ago.
👉 And some folks are more worried about Leo’s judgment day than their own.
This episode is a blend of Scripture, sanity, and straight talk — exactly what Lent calls us to.
Tune in, share it, and let’s keep choosing life with Christ.
00:00:00 – David L. Gray in the Morning
00:03:15 – Saint of the Day, St. Turibius of Mogrovejo
00:08:45 – Jesus Always Chose Life
00:22:47 – Reactions to Fr. Ripperger’s Demon Gossip
00:52:21 – Fr. Chad’s Demon Gossip vs. Ven. Mary Agreda’s Private Revelation
01:18:13 – Background to Leo XIV’s Pachamama Moment
01:31:00 – Pachamana Evidence vs. Interpretation
